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I have posted a link to here , over on the Crimespace site. Hopefully , we will get some of the old faces as well as a few new ones as well.

6 years ago
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Deedee, in continuation as I posted this before... unfortunately, the site got wonky and I lost the post. I am going to go out on a limb here... as much as I love Joe, and you know I do, I am starting to love Aiden more. His relationship with Vera has grown in to one with intimate, lovely moments that show him to be a caring, kind, patient man who has the backbone to put her in her place when need be. He has a grace about him that Joe did not - I am not criticizing Joe, we all have our strong points, it is just that Aiden has this ability to understand and coddle Vera with nary a whisper of annoyance and yet can put her right when he has to without being harsh. He always speaks from his heart.


When I see Vera lean on him whenever she needs to put her blue booties on, and invariably hold on to the top of his head, something you and I would never do, but then again, we are not Vera... and he doesn't even raise an eyebrow - accepts the need as it is and is so graceful about it, I love him a little bit more.


Appara2, that is a good one!!

12 months ago

Soler, I did watch Grantchester last night. What a contrived storyline... obviously used as the vehicle to exit him out of the series, but such a poor choice. The Brits presuming that they could speak to the Black experience in Alabama in the 50's/60's (I was not quite sure what the time period that was suppose to be), I don't know why they even chose to go there. If it was an American writer, I did not check, all the worst. Sidney falling in love once again, leaving all behind to go to a place he knows next to nothing about... such a self indulgent, self obsessed, destructive character. It all made me recall why I never took to the series in the first place. I am glad to see the back of him and hope they move in a different direction with the new vicar and we see them leave all the baggage behind with James Norton's departure.

12 months ago
deedee713
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Just lost my post. No biggie, just kvetching about Endeavour, didn't like the entire season, glad to see the back of it next year (hopefully). Except for the supporting cast, the show is a pale imitation/prequel/whatever of Morse.

appara, I don't see a link.

Brit, you're quite right. At some point, Aiden really meshed with Vera, and in watching the early episodes, there was a brittleness to Joe and Vera - perhaps because of his wife? I guess she didn't watch too many British mysteries, didn't she know Joe would put work ahead of family? Yes, the little touches with Aiden are delightful. She IS Vera now, Brenda wears that part like the old raincoat!

After a rough start to the last series, Professor T is going out on a nice high. Not only did they cut off the show too early, but they brought it back 2 years later (2017) with someone to whom I won't give a chance.

Hoo boy, the new Grantchester was an enormous stinker. I never liked Norton, never, but the vehicle used to get him out of the show was obviously written in the dark. Really? So after spending most of our time falling in love with Amanda and every other female who dropped dead at the sight of him (blech), he suddenly falls in love again after a few weeks and simply has to rush off to America or he would die of a broken heart. Come on. And, why couldn't they make Leonard the lead vicar, wouldn't he be next in line? Noooo, they have to insert another pretty boy, so the females will get the vapors for the next many seasons.

12 months ago


Hoo boy, the new Grantchester was an enormous stinker. I never liked Norton, never, but the vehicle used to get him out of the show was obviously written in the dark. Really? So after spending most of our time falling in love with Amanda and every other female who dropped dead at the sight of him (blech), he suddenly falls in love again after a few weeks and simply has to rush off to America or he would die of a broken heart. Come on.


Exactly! I did watch part of last season so I knew how things had ended with Amanda. I had stopped watching at the beginning of the second season (I think) prior to that. Didn't matter, because things had not changed much. This on again, off again, angst had been going on since day one. This was the love of his life, the woman he was going to give up everything for... almost... and then without much ado, his heart is mended, he falls in love and takes off with a woman he barely knows to a place he doesn't know. Come on, is right!!


You know many of our favorite detectives were boozers and self destructive, it kind of goes with the genre. Ken Stott's, Rebus; Warren Clarke's, Dalziel; Shaw's, Morse; one of the worst, Robbie Coltrane's, Fitz. The list goes on, yet none of these characters were whiners. They were who they were and they got on with their lives. Sidney was a continual whiner who felt sorry for himself and thought of himself as the victim. The one thing I will say is that his new love knew exactly who he was, 'cause she called him on it. I found his character immature and he was nothing more than annoying by the end of it.

12 months ago
soler
expert

Yeah Brit …… I found this Grantchester season opener a struggle. Fell asleep half way thru. What does that tell ya . Can't add much to you're and dee's assessment of this series , accept to say I won't be sad to see the last of Norton . Must say , will keep an open mind to see how the new Vic. turns out but I have for a long time now not been a fan of the clergy / crimefighter theme , so the new guy is gonna half to be quite an improvement . I guess the rest of the summer for me ( already mid July , time a flyin' ) will be to watch last season of Poldark and this new Grantchester . The new Poldark season starts the end of Sept. ( will try to get back into Poldark again when the new season starts.) Wouldn't mind seeing this mini series about T & T made back in 2015. This would be a good way to spend the rest of the summer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6cAIqEwPQ0

12 months ago
deedee713
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Couldn't agree more. He didn't whine like that with Amanda. They should have made a drinking game for the audience: take a shot when Sidney whines, waaaah, waaaah. We would all have been drunk by the end of the show.

And what, pray tell, was her attraction to Sidney? Oddest exit show for a character I've seen in recent memory.

I read a good review, can't find it now, that said pretty much the same thing and hoped the new guy would breathe fresh life into the show.

12 months ago
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12 months ago
appara2
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Hey Soler, watched the link and wouldn't mind catching Pertners in Crime too! I checked my tv listing and didn't see it, so I'm thinking it's airing on a streaming service?

And as per usual I spent extra time down the rabbit hole that is youtube LOL
Enjoyed the Texas High Kick team on GotTalent, as well as the singing talent of Kodi Lee!

12 months ago

Soler and Appara2, the series is streamed on Acorn TV, which also has the original Partners in Crime TV series available as well. It is kind of a "two for", you have access to both. The original is a favorite of mine, although a bit dated. The trailer for the remake does look interesting and there was a lot of hoopla before it was aired. Unfortunately, the new series did not live up to expectations. Only one season was made, it was not renewed. I watched the first episode and didn't continue after that. That doesn't mean that you both wouldn't enjoy it, we all gravitate to different things... if it comes on a local PBS station, it is worth a whirl.

12 months ago
soler
expert

Hey Brit and appara2 …….. thought it would be a nice little touch ta fill in the summer but I did see a ' red flag ' in the fact that only one season was filmed. Always a bad sign . Wonder what the problem was …. bad story flow or maybe it was that the actors just didn't catch on with the viewers . Would still like ta see it.... Brit you watched the first ep. and that was it for ya lol ….. what was it that turned ya off ??

12 months ago

Soler, if I remember correctly the actors did not pull it off as well as expected - David Walliams was not a convincing Tommy, it wasn't a good casting decision... and Jessica Raine was not much better, I am afraid. The story writing was painful. I would like to be more positive, but I can't, unfortunately. It would have been nice if it went the way of the Maigret remake with Rowan Atkinson, which I think to many people's amazement (mine included) was very well done and hit the mark.

12 months ago

Soler, I didn't answer your question... sorry! I gave you the general reasoning why the series was not renewed. I read a lot of these types of comments when I was poking around to see what others thought about it. For me, it felt disjointed, nothing seemed to work. There was little about it that made me want to see more.

12 months ago
soler
expert

Yeah Brit ....... remakes are sooo chancy . To follow in the footsteps of James Warwick and Francesca Annis are big shoes to fill. There is always that comparison of the original cast. These new actors were a couple of nobodies really .. at least I had never heard of them . For them it was not so much of a chance and they were probably at that stage in their carriers where they would not turn down work , any work. Bit different for established actors , the comparison is more risky for them . Of course it dosn't matter who ya get if the writing is bad and story line is disjointed . Would like to see a first class production of T & T done with good direction . Wouldn't mind seeing the original cast , Warwick and Annis return ... only draw back to this plan is they might be a little too old to take on the main roles .. would make for some good guest shots though. Couple in their forties would be good .. don't know who that could be.

12 months ago

Yeah Brit ....... remakes are sooo chancy.


Y
es, without a doubt, especially when you have an iconic piece you are trying to redo. I saw the Mary Poppins sequel on my way back from LV. It is a beautifully produced movie and you can sense the care that went in to making it. Now, did I expect to see or feel what I did from the original 1964 film with Julie Andrews and Dick Van Dyke. No. I did try to not compare the films, I didn't expect it to have the "heart" of the original and it didn't. Though beautifully done, it doesn't have ... I don't know quite how to express it... the deep down warmth of the original, nothing about it will stand the test of time... no one is going to be singing the songs and repeating the dialogue twenty years from now.
I enjoyed it as a diversion on the plane and was fine with it.

I do give Emily Blunt credit for taking on the role, which is one that I would think most actresses would shy away from. The comparison to Julie Andrews would not be a thing I think most would want as a defining moment in their career.

12 months ago
deedee713
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I was SOOOOOO looking forward to the second season return of Trapped, the Icelandic police show.

So, 30 dead and bloody sheep and don't forget the dead and bloody border collie later, I'm done.

As one commenter said on a Trapped board, the writers must hate animals.

What they could have done with an inference, they chose instead to do with closeups of a dog and sheep killed specifically for the show.

Funny, Brit, I may be the only person in the world never to have seen Mary Poppins or My Fair Lady, but Julie Andrews makes my teeth itch.

I shy away from remakes, or prequels or sequels, but Maigret was quite good. Endeavour is fair.

How do we report 'rocket...'? Why are his two posts still here?

12 months ago
appara2
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I have a feeling that there are going to be some more shakeups in Death in Paradise! I just finished watching Beyond the Shining Sea (Season 8)

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

Part 1 or 2, appara? I saw the finale and I'm not sure where everybody is. It's a very fluid show, I have to give it that.

12 months ago
appara2
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Sorry Dee, I should have said the second half. I was just so surprised with Florence making that career decision! And then I caught the preview for the next episode with Jack asking for a transfer! grrr!!! LOL

12 months ago
deedee713
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Ah. I missed episode 7 but saw 8. Won't say more.

I hate to say it, in deference to Brit, and it's SO out of character for me, but I actually like Ardal.

Only since he cut his hair, mind. He seems to have changed his character since he cut his hair.

12 months ago
appara2
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Next up for me is the Murder of the DJ on Saturday. I've given up on trying to keep track of the episode numbers for this series. My guide has it as 8-6, share has it named as 8-7. Either way, on Saturday night I will be following along on the murder of Dezzie Dixon!
I have eventually come to like most of the new additions, they might have taken a bit to settle in and make the job their own, but overall I enjoy the changes after a few episodes. The one that took the longest for me was the goofy niece, but she is pretty darn good at digging her job, so I've learned to deal LOL

12 months ago

What they could have done with an inference, they chose instead to do with closeups of a dog and sheep killed specifically for the show.


Deedee, this is so disturbing, I can never understand why they need to show scenes such as these, inference is all we need, there is absolutely no need to go beyond this, none. I tried to get information pertaining to this issue regarding the series and found none online. I would steer clear of series from Iceland and Denmark. The Swedes are more sensitive to this issue, I know that Krister Henriksson will not allow any animal to be harmed in the making of his Wallander series and I don't remember any of the Beck episodes (which I am currently watching) having an issue.



I am finding that too many of the newer series are going way over the top in violence towards women, children and animals. I am putting a halt to watching. When this happens, and it has before, I fall back on searching out older series and my favorites from days gone by. I want to be entertained by what I watch not horrified and repulsed by it.


In fact, I watched an a favorite last night... an Italian film, "Mid-August Lunch" with my luv, Gianni Di Gregorio, who both directed and starred in the movie. Did my heart good... for me, one of my all time favorite movies.

12 months ago

Appara2, I too, was surprised to see Florence leave. I became attached to her as time went on... I grow attached to all the new personalities once I have had some time to get to know them. Like you, I am usually not a fan of the new faces at first. It took some time before Florence grew on me, and now, I am sorry to see her leave. I am feeling the same way about Florence's replacement, who you will soon come to meet. I am not taking to her at all, but time will tell, I have changed my mind before with this series and I am sure I will again.

12 months ago

Well, we have episode two of Grantchester under our belt, and I have a question... is this a series on social commentary or is this a mystery series? I am confused, because it is touted as a mystery, yet I see so little of that going on and what is done, so poorly to boot. Who knew who the murderer was on third in to the episode? Yep, thinly veiled that was, and not much attention put in to making it a mystery at all. Although much attention is put in to telling us everyone's secrets and personal business and making inferences.


Leonard did fabulously this episode, he took on his role as Vicar and amateur sleuth with aplomb. I enjoyed watching him in Sidney's shoes and question why we need Will. Oh yes, Deedee reminded us, eye candy for the viewers! Leonard will now, once again, take a back seat. The problem is, now that we have seen Leonard emerge, and step up to the challenge, that image of him remains in our minds and we know he can do it. This is going to needle at us while we watch Will take charge. I wish they had a least allowed them to co-Vicar for a time, working together; both giving sermons and helping with investigations. This would have been the better route from my perspective. Eventually one of them might move on to other things, but with a good writer, neither would need to be written out of the series - the stories could expand to include the lives of both.

12 months ago

After looking at the previews for next week, I think I am going to bow out of the series for the rest of the season. The next story is going to be upsetting, which as I have said, is not entertaining, and I have no interest in seeing Cathy in her present situation. Does there have to be constant drama with the characters... this is worst then a soap opera. The woman finally found some enjoyment and purpose in life that is completely hers and now we have to watch his. Could they have not left her in peace for more than a few moments. And now, we are going to have to watch the sourpuss that is Mrs. Maguire as she deals with her knowledge of Leonard's life. How long is this going to go on?! They should have let things be for the time... there was a bright moment when all was well, but we were allowed only the one! No more fry ups for Leonard and the offer of an extra sausage - that was a great scene! Nah, they couldn't allow us a few more of those...

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

Oh boy, glad I didn't watch, Brit. I wonder if the other vicar was a woman, if she would have gone quietly when Pretty Boy was brought in to take charge? Is there some kind of implied prejudice here, as was evidenced when Sidney went to the head vicar, that a gay vicar couldn't be in charge? Even IF he proved himself, time and time again.

Sadly, I had to look up who Cathy was. Geordie's wife didn't have enough sturm und drang, she's getting more upheaval? Ah well, it was pretty good while it lasted.

I too had taken to Florence, after taking to Camille, and Kris and Danny.....I wonder if this show wins for most revolving door cast members? Where ARE they going, I wonder? Still waiting for David Caruso's career to take off after leaving NYPD Blue!

I agree, Brit. You are correct about Denmark, I didn't think Iceland was as bad, but they obviously are. That's it for me. I complained on the F/B page, and was asked how I knew the animals weren't sedated. Un huh, 30 sheep and a border collie, sedated and hung up by their feet. I swear, people in those countries don't care about animals as I do.

Sadly, I've come to the end of Professor T, that was a very good watch.

12 months ago
alastair
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Brit, I agree wholeheartedly about the new Mary Poppins. You have to view it without comparison to the original, with an open mind. Yes, the score and songs are forgettable, IMO. Why tamper with a classic?

12 months ago

Found two older series; first, The Rivals of Sherlock Holmes just hit Acorn TV. I found an episode with Peter Bowles (heart, heart) as an Inspector, very early in his career - I have never had the chance to see it before. I am delighted. The series is dated without a doubt, but right up my alley as I am in a nostalgic mood these days. Also have watched a few things on Tubi. They have Mid August Lunch which I mentioned above and I have finally gotten to watch Vincent, with my other fav guy, Ray Winstone. It also stars Suranne Jones and Joe Absolom. Tubi reminds me of the old Hulu before it went solely pay for view. There are commercial breaks, but they are of very short duration and well worth it to find content I can't get anywhere else (and for free!)

12 months ago

Deedee, quess who is starring in S2 of Mystery Road? Saga from "The Bridge"! She was outstanding in that... she is going to be great in Mystery Road.




thekillingtimestv.wordpress.com/2019/07/25/sofia-helin-to-star-in-series-two-of-mystery-road/

12 months ago

Sorry, the above link doesn't work. Let's see if this is better!





https://thekillingtimestv.wordpress.com/2019/07/25/sofia-helin-to-star-in-series-two-of-mystery-road/

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

Sounds good, Brit. But why can't I find Judy Davis's name anywhere when I google Mystery Road??

She was the heart and soul of the show, Aaron Pederson was good, but what the heck?

Sofia Helin will be a great add, but I'd hate to think Judy Davis won't be back. Back, heck, they seem to have scrubbed her name from the original. Or, am I mis-googling??

Thanks for the pointer.

12 months ago

Without a doubt she was the heart and soul of S1. I could take or leave Aaron Pederson, it is Judy Davis who plays the compelling character.


I didn't look at it as Helin would be taking over as Pederson's sidekick. She's playing an archeologist that comes to town and (I assume) gets involved in a murder. That shouldn't effect Judy as she is the long-time copper, but now that you mention it, I also do not see anything about her involvement in S2. From what I am reading, Pederson is considered the star of the series. I put a big question on that, but now I wonder if he stays on and his sidekicks change with each new storyline.


I looked the first series up on Wiki and IMDB, JD is there in both. I didn't look up Judy herself on IMDB, I will go do that now, that should tell us something about what she is up to.

12 months ago

She's co-starring in a remake/reboot of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" called Ratched that will be aired on Netflix. It sounds awful. Not something I would waste a moment of my time on. What a disappointment. I think you called it, we will not be seeing her in S2 of Mystery Road and that is a real shame.

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

Big time, Brit. I never got that Aaron was the lead. He don't got the goods.

I'm sure, even with Judy gone, that Sofia will steal the show, so we won't have to worry its quality.

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

soler et al: what is your impression of the new vicar and the group in Grantchester?

I haven't been loyal, and so only saw part of the opener and the latest, episode 4. Won't go into detail, but huh?

12 months ago

Coming to PBS in October... Press


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K108II6gKEw

12 months ago

Deedee, I didn't even bother to go near that one. I bowed out of the series after the second episode. Unless one of you tell me that there has been a major improvement in the series with the new Vicar, I think I am (again) done.

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

Brit - nope. As I felt a long time ago, Norton was at his best in Happy Valley, and should have had his head blown off at the end. Instead, they had a weasel ending.

But nope, this vicar is worse than Sidney. I'm curious to read what the opinion is on how they impaired Leonard (abomination that the PTB didn't make him vicar, as noted in the show they can make him co-vicar) and Mrs. Geordie.

Oh, and as we expected, they're already having all the females in town swoon at the new guy. Blech.

As outrageous as the pricing is, I'm glad to have all the streaming options that I do.

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

Oh my. Press looks quite good, and who doesn't want more David Suchet.

But don't google it. It looks like it never got to a second season and ended on a cliffhanger! Not young enough for the young demographic, eh wot?

Speaking of insulting the demographic, I don't if anyone here watched JK Simmons (okay I have a crush on him) in Counterpart on STARZ. Incredibly complicated 2 season sci fi romantic mystery thriller which had Simmons playing two parts, one in one dimension, another in a second dimension.

Follow along if you can. I did. Hubby didn't. Note that last sentence.

So what do the geniuses at STARZ do? They didn't order another season. Why not? Get this. Because apparently STARZ is looking for a FEMALE demographic and this show was TOO COMPLICATED AND THUS TOO MALE (their words, the misogynistic sexist prats) and so it had to go.

Can........you.........imagine? So there I sat, eating up every convoluted piece of dialogue and storyline, and hubby left after a little bit, couldn't follow it he said.

So what does that make me? At least, they didn't end on a cliffhanger.

12 months ago

I'm sorry, did I read that correctly...."too complicated for the female demographic"!! Now you have got my gander up, I will check it out, that is... if my pea brain can handle it! Unbelievable. You know what it makes you? Brilliant! :), :)

12 months ago

Speaking of "Grantchester", someone just posted this on FB, I am blown away... I had no idea that Robson Green had a singing career before he went in to acting. I love it!!




https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=4t3OrvYGE5U

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

LOL, thanks Brit. Oh yes, I'll find a link, be right back. If I, doh, can manage to use the internet. :O)

How about that, I figured it out. You gave me a great idea, I'm going to contact the moron who made this statement.

Counterpart was a great show, we had great partners in MRC and Justin is a great writer, but it was a very complicated show, a very male show. We had picked that show up and made a two season commitment before we’d honed in on this premium female strategy,” he said.


https://deadline.com/2019/07/counterpart-starz-cancellation-1202655113/#com
ments


I think I had read that about Green. I really liked him in Touching Evil, but there's something about him in Grantchester that leaves me cold.

Well, I'm off now to ask someone how to turn off my computer.

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

Dang! See that! Forgot to properly include the link.

https://deadline.com/2019/07/counterpart-starz-cancellation-1202655113/#comments

12 months ago

Who is this (idiot) Hirsch? I don't know what that statement is suppose to mean, and I doubt he does either. What ignorance.


I find Robson Green attractive, he has a quiet sexiness to him. Everyone makes such a fuss over James Norton and I don't see it. Green looked quite handsome in his sharkskin suit I must say!

12 months ago
soler
expert

soler et al: what is your impression of the new vicar and the group in Grantchester?
about the same as you dee .... not impressed at all. Find him bland and some what boring to tell the truth. Agree with you on Norton , he was excellent in Happy Valley . He had an aura of evil about him you just can't really put you're finger on .. you just sensed it. Press looks interesting Brit …. thanks for that … something to look forward to in October . LOL .. LOL … Counterpart .. too complicated .. for the female demographic LOL .. LOL

12 months ago
soler
expert

This Hirsch clown needs to be replaced ..... his mind set is from pre World WAR I . Starz needs to take action on this clown to be able to compete in this dog eat dog business there in. Exes. of this level need to be forward thinking not something out of a Dickens novel. From the comments section there seems to be a lot of women who enjoyed this show and are sad about its demise . Green not a bad singer.

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

I can see your point, Brit. However, when a show irritates me, it detracts from the quality of an actor. Example, Nicola Walker, imo, is magnificent in Unforgotten, yet her character in LTIH makes my teeth itch.

Thanks, solar, glad you see it. They appear to be flogging a dead horse, especially after what they have done to Mrs. Geordie and Leonard and the housekeeper. I think in the old days this would be called a potboiler.

Exactly on Norton. Did you like the ending of Happy Valley, the season with Norton in it that is? Yes, Press does look interesting, shame they cut it off at the knees, cancelling it after one season.

Interestingly, I whinged about the changes in Death in Paradise, and yet have watched and enjoyed all the seasons. That takes talent, to make a smooth transition with so many cast changes.

Isn't that amazing, soler? That's why I included the link, I'm sure the show wasn't a popular one, but to lay it down to a male vs female demographic? Holy cow, this is 2019, does this guy think women are still in the kitchen with the kids, unable to follow complicated shows, and men are out earning the bacon, growing their brain exponentially? Wow. Just wow.

Thanks, I forgot to mention the comments section, where he was put in his place. Sadly, I'm sure he's a narcissist and would have no idea about whom they were speaking.

12 months ago
appara2
guru

How sad, I may not have known his name but I sure did know and enjoy his music.

11 months ago
soler
expert

RIP .. Barrington Phelong .. sad new indeed. Playing that theme clip brings back the old days of Inspector Morse . John Thaw died at 60 and now BP at 65.

11 months ago

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