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I have posted a link to here , over on the Crimespace site. Hopefully , we will get some of the old faces as well as a few new ones as well.

6 years ago
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deedee713
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Happy belated Canada day to you both as well.

Nothing to say about this episode. Bright's scenes were the only 'bright' spots, for me. I hope they wrap up this filler season and get on with the show as it was meant to be.

A very good show from Belgium, on PBS - Professor T.

12 months ago
soler
expert

and a happy 4th to you dee ........ we kinda got away from the murders to focus on the life mess of Thursday and that bent copper Box . We really haven't talked about the Creswell family situation and the shotgun murder of that young woman at the beginning of the ep. That over dose guy in the alley , is he tied into the murders or just a collateral investigation . We really have not gone there at all.

12 months ago
appara2
guru

And Happy (early) 4th sent right back at you!! Enjoy your time with family and friends!!

Would it be unfair to say I knew who the murderer was as soon as Endeavor asked her out on a date? LOL

I did put the shotgun shooter as being one andthe same for the well dressed blonde, and the scarlet tunic murder a mistake when the father and son switched ponies.
When it came out that the poison-pen letters seemed to be the center of the crimes, I did think it might have been Sarah Clemp, the clingy fiancee!
To be honest, the vets daughter wasn't even on my radar as being the mastermind! It did strike me as odd that she would have been chatting on the only phone (back in the day of no call waiting) for 2 hours, and I first thought as an alibi for her father, not for herself.

As for the late night meeting in the chocolate factory, would the factory have been empty with a huge vat of chocolate bubbling away? I would think that somebody would have been there to keep an eye on it. I say this as having destroyed a few batches of melting chocolate myself!!

12 months ago

Hi all! I am typing this at the airport as we wait to board. I did not guess the murder, though I should have. As Appara2 said, as soon as Endeavour asked her out I should have known it was her. As I said in my previous post, poor man cannot catch a break. This stays with him the rest of his life, he is doomed to be alone no matter how hard he tries to make things work, either his love interest committed the crime or he does something stupid to ruin the relationship. I always felt sorry for him as the older Morse.

I am sitting in the AE Centurion Club drinking my second Bloody Mary, I think it is time to log off before the alcohol hits!

12 months ago
alastair
expert

Happy 4th everyone!

12 months ago
appara2
guru

My kidlins and hubs took me out for my b'day dinner last night. I guess I show my age when I am shocked that a burger and fries starts at $20 in a fancy schmancy restaurant!!
Hope you all have a safe and happy 4th celebration!

Dee, I found the listing for Professor T, but it seems I missed the first 8 episodes. Usually PBS here is better at advertising new series, grrr! This sounds a bit like a House or an Instinct type character?
I set my pvr to record the July 8th episode (the go-between)


Hope Brit is enjoying her hotweather holiday!!?? OMG, I did a quick weather search and she's topping 100F today!

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

Thanks Alastair.

Sounds like a nice birthday, appara. Yes, here in NY we used to eat dinner out for what we now pay for an appetizer. Showing my age, indeed!

That's what Professor T is compared to, as well as Monk, and at the time I did like House and Monk. Can't watch either anymore, for some reason. T's backstory is very compelling, they put more effort into that part of a series outside of America.

There are only 3 seasons of Professor T, and they are all on PBS Passport. Not sure if I shared that I tried to change to Optimum, but they are bigger crooks than Verizon. Bottom line, they gave me one price at the door (rep came cold calling) and another when it got down to signing the contract. Bait and switch.

So, as odious as Verizon is, and won't accommodate me in my preferred programming, I have chosen to get all the streaming that has the programs I like. Now I can stream to my heart's content.

12 months ago
alastair
expert

Hi Dee!

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

Hi Alastair! Are you enjoying some of the shows on the various channels?

As Brit said - hope she's keeping cool - we have lots to choose from, if we subscribe to most of the offered channels.

12 months ago
appara2
guru

I wonder if the first thing Brit says when she gets back is how much she missed us...or how sore her arm is from playing the nickel slots? LOL

Tonite is a full to bursting night of tv for me. On top of a whole host of shows that y'all don't watch, it's the last of Endeavor, the premiere of MotherFatherSon, new episodes of Years and Years, and The Rook, and in the wee hours of the morning, a taste of Dee's recommend of Professor T.
Whew!

12 months ago
deedee713
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appara, I think both.

I'm sad that Endeavour is going to wrap up everything in the last episode.

I've already forgotten which show it was that had an entire season as a filler, but it was in the same situation, and had been renewed. At any rate, I won't be sorry if next year is Endeavour's last, and I hope it goes out with a bang.

I'm on Season 2 of Professor T, and still enjoying it, which is no small feat for me. It's a comfortable show, at times jarring, but interesting, imo.

Some PBS or other is showing Vera from the beginning, and my how she has changed. Of course, I liked her better in Season 1, but darned if the current season 9 wasn't crackerjack.

Enjoy!

12 months ago
soler
expert

I'm sad that Endeavour is going to wrap up everything in the last episode
me too dee ... kinda hopin' they wouldn't do it that way. I really think there was enough going on to carry it over to next season. Soooooo ... I'm a gonna make a prediction lol based on something Strange said to Endeavour last week that got me ta thinkin' . It's about the downfall of Box , I think Box has been in cahoots with drug dealers and allowing their shipments to go thru while Box draws the police off in other directions OR is just stonewalling the drug investigation all together. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it . lol

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

From Digital Spy in April, when Endeavour ended in the UK. A lovely scene obviously deleted by our friends at PBS:

The most poignant scene for me was when Thursday and Bright were talking about how they first met their wives.


I'll wait for all to watch before weighing in.

12 months ago
alastair
expert

Dee, I'm still watching mostly PBS - the Doc reruns, Death in Paradise, and one of our favorites, 800 Words. I'm sad to learn it wasn't renewed for a fourth season. I will miss it! You're right, those kids can act! Wonderful stories, wisdom, and cast..

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

Alastair, it's nice to see the Doc on Tuesday nights on a local PBS. Ditto with DIP. I am surprised to have renewed interest in it, I didn't like the crossover episode with Ardal in England. They've done well.

I'm surprised to hear 800 Words only lasted 3 seasons. That's a shame, it was silly at times - SO many women in love with George, but the ensemble on a whole was excellent together. I'm not impressed with Seven Network, they thought Blake without Blake was a good idea.

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

MAJOR spoilers, so don't watch until you've seen the last episode. Chris Sullivan included a lot of the small but unnecessarily deleted scenes by the scissor happy at PBS. Enjoy.

https://morseandlewisandendeavour.com/2019/07/10/deguello-s6e4-missing-and-truncated-scenes-from-some-regions-of-the-usa/

12 months ago

Hello All! Yes I did miss you, what a trip! I found myself thinking of you and saying to myself "wait until they hear this"! This was a doozy of a vacation. Everything turned out well in the end, but boy, there were many bumps in the road!

Let me start from the beginning, the flight there was not a good one. Thankfully, all was well with the flight itself, smooth take off and landing, no turbulence to speak of, we landed alive and well and bottom line that is the most important thing. The plane, I don't know where they dug this one up. People were crammed in like sardines, they di not get as much as a peanut (and were probably better off for it) and first class was far from first. It was pitiful in terms of food and service. No in flight entertainment for five and a half hours as your only option was to use their App to see a few TV channels and hooking in to the wifi was next to impossible. Only those who If you had something to watch downloaded on a device, had anything to watch. The food was atrocious, any this is based on comparing it to airplane food, so that tells you something. I got deathly ill midway (I only ate a few bites of the chicken, but that was enough) and rode the last two hours feeling very sick. There was little air flow in the plane and that did not help the situation. Finally made it off the plane and to the hotel...……. We had a great room, the hubs did good, panoramic view from windows on two sides. I am feeling so bad by then that all I could do was curl up in bed. I just needed to lay down. Well, that all worked fine for about an hour, then we heard this music booming, come to find out it was from the The Beach Club down below. We were on the 39th floor at this point (important info as I continue). I realize that we are all of an age where we don't regularly listen to dance music, but it had this booming beat and was on a continual loop, this went on until 3:30 AM. Let me tell you, this could be used as torture. Dear Lord... I had my earbuds with me so that helped a little. We were not able to get a good night's sleep (which we very much needed as the hubs was not feeling any better than I) until it stopped.

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Next morning we have breakfast (we were both feeling better by then) and talk to the hotel about our room. They were in full knowledge of the problem with the noise, basically they just wait and see if anyone is going to complain. If we were a young couple out partying to all hours, the room would have been fine, would not have noticed it... and that is what they wait to find out. As soon as we said something, they took the cost of the room off the bill and offered to move us. The club wasn't opened that night so we stayed where we were and the next day we moved to another room. It had a panoramic window, but was not fully fronted by windows and was further away from the dance club. Apparently this club has an international clientele that come in to party all night, the fee to get in the door is very high and the place is packed. So that tells you something right there. There is a large international presence in the hotel, designer attire and handbags everywhere. I realize we were in Las Vegas, the land of fun, but it would have been nice if they were upfront when we booked the room from the beginning so that we did not have to interrupt our vacation to repack and move.


It is July 4th, the hubs birthday, and we plan a nice dinner out and decide to go for a ride around the area. I don't think I have mentioned this, but the hubs has been campaigning for us to retire to Las Vegas as "it is his home in his heart". The only problem, he is remembering the heart of a thirty/forty year old, not a person close to retirement. I know this, but he hasn't yet. Yes, *Deedee*, heat is heat, it doesn't matter if it is humid or dry heat. It was so hot, that it was debilitating; it takes a toll on you. I have been there in the heat of summer before myself, but I was also much younger at the time. This kind of heat forces you to stay in the air-conditioning, you can not enjoy outdoor activities. It is no different than dealing with our winters on the East Coast....There is a caveat to this which will follow.... I can see the heat is getting to him, but he is not ready to give in quite yet.

12 months ago

Then comes the clincher... we have our first earthquake. We are on the 39th floor still at this point. The earthquake started in California, we only felt the tremors and aftershock and believe me that was enough. I feel for the people in California who got the brunt of it. My husband was standing by the window when it happened and he felt like he was going to fall out. I was in the bathroom getting ready so I was somewhat insolated from it, but I felt it internally. My equilibrium was off for several hours after that. People of course were taken off guard and everyone was anxious. We pulled ourselves together though, hoped that it would not happen again, and went of to a lovely, lovely birthday dinner.
The next day we go to look at a house we saw on the internet that intrigued us. It was perfect, we loved it, but by this time the hubs is (still) reeling from the earthquake, I am looking at all the outdoor space (beautiful pool, barbeque and lounge areas etc.) and pointing out that you can't use these in the summer months well in to September due to the heat, which he agrees... and to us East Coast folks, life there seems isolated and limiting. I see that he is rethinking his plan to convince me that this is the place for us as even this beautiful home is not enough to make up for a lifestyle that does not suit us.


I am (internally) thrilled because I don't want to move to Las Vegas as I am not a desert girls by any means, but I don't want to rain on his parade and be the one to dash his dreams. I kept my comments quiet and let him come to the realization on his own. Believe me, I had nothing to worry about.


We had move our room by this point and we are now on the 58th floor. This becomes critical because guess what happens next.

12 months ago

Yes, earthquake #2.... this happens just as we get off the elevator as we are in this huge tower of a building. It is worst than the first and people on the floor are getting scared. We get to our room, and as soon

12 months ago

as it is safe to do so, the hubs wants to go downstairs, which I heartily agree as I am in desperate need of a cup of tea. I am in my pajamas mind you, but at that point I did not care.

12 months ago

Downstairs we went and I got a cup of earl grey from the cafe and we sat and composed ourselves. The hubs didn't understand about the tea, from his standpoint we were in crisis... well, that is a bit of an exaggeration as we were fine really - and all I wanted was a cup of tea! I tell him it is a British thing, in times of trouble and stress, everyone has a cup of tea. It comes from watching years of British programing (at last a tie in to TV)! Interesting enough, the next day we meet two young men from Britain, they had very heavy accents which I couldn't place, maybe Yorkshire, they were strapping guys and quite upset about the earthquakes. It was their first time experiencing anything like that (ours as well, we don't have them on the East Coast) and I got the impression that they were not planning on visiting LV again.
Well, that did it for the hubs. He said he would take an East Coast snow storm any day over this (and the heat) and that Las Vegas was out. Happy Dance, people!!

12 months ago

I will stop here, believe it there is more to tell. As I said, this was a doozy of a holiday. We did get to spend time at the pool, see the sites (as they are in LV) ate well, but the best time was yet to come all due to a mistake. But, more about that later! I didn't get to watch the Endeavour finale yet... I am looking forward to it.

12 months ago
soler
expert

WOW Brit ......... picture this , on the edge of my chair , shoveling pop corn into my mouth as fast as I can while reading this. lol waiting for the rest ............

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

And as I am reading, Brit, I respond in typical me fashion and won't type it, since it would no doubt offend. But wow, thanks Brit, for the descriptive narration. Can you share the airline? I wouldn't fly them even I did fly!!! The first picture I had of you getting nauseous on the plane is the ordeal you just went through. UGH!

I can't imagine earthquakes or their aftershocks, how scary.


A cousin of my mother moved out to LV, which at the time, many many years ago, was BOOMING! Fast forward years after the meltdown of 2008 and LV is a real estate wasteland. Don't know how it is today, but I have no interest in living there. Sorry reality hit Lionel, that is never fun.

I love that you a cuppa to calm down.

12 months ago
appara2
guru

I was on earlier and saw the first update of your holiday, kinda knew you would be at the character limit and would have to make a couple posts, so I left and just came back to read the wonders of a Vegas Holiday!! OH MY!

Wasn't it the chicken that got you not too long ago?? I think there is a conspiracy going on here! Glad that it didn't lay you low for your entire holiday, and that you were up and about to enjoy some of the sights, and sounds!! grrrr!!

39th floor, and then on up to the 58th? Holy hell, I would have been asking for a room in the basement! Vertigo is setting in just thinking about it... even without the terror of an earthquake! LOL

But you must have had an amazing overview of the town! And the lights! And the action!
Raising an Earl Grey and toasting your narrow escape from life in the desert!

I haven't watched the finale of Endeavor either! I have visitors, and have been sneaking on and off the 'puter like a guilty child. They are leaving on Friday morning so I am waiting till they are gone to watch properly and give it my full attention.

12 months ago

I forgot to mention that the British guys we met had a very different experience with the hurricane tremors than we did. Both times we were up high in the building in or near our rooms, their experience was down on the casino floor. I can understand why they were so upset, from what they told us the chandeliers (and you know how large they are in the casino/first floor area) were swaying back and forth overhead. Now that had to be a scary sight and I quite understand why they were so freaked out by it all. Let's just say it left a lasting impression on them.


But you must have had an amazing overview of the town! And the lights! And the action!
Appara2, the view was extraordinary, particularly from the first room, which was all window at the front and side. On July 4th we could see fireworks going off all over Las Vegas. It takes me a little time to get acclimated to Vegas, it always has. I don't have a natural attachment to it, it seems foreign to me at first, but I always come around and enjoy myself. It is a great place to people watch, the atmosphere is friendly and accommodating - people come to LV to have a good time and that is what they do, it is nice to see people enjoying themselves and putting their cares away for a little while. It is a hopping place and I must admit I get right in to it. A bit of the high life never hurt anyone.


You have a great memory, yes, it was the chicken that did me in not too long ago! Although, I came to understand that there was a virus/infection going around that more than likely compounded my illness. The chicken may have been a bit off and made me initially ill, but it was something more that took hold after that. I heard of others that were sick as long as I was and some had to go to the hospital emergency room not knowing what was wrong with them. In any event, you have to be very careful with chicken, I rarely eat it out and make it only a few times a year. I will only buy free-range chicken, which is not easy to come by and because of the fear of salmonella it becomes a lot of work to cook. I clean everything over and over. Although, a crispy roast chicken with roasted potatoes, onions and carrots is a favorite of mine. If I do cook chicken, I do a dry brine and roast it in an old fashion Nesco Roaster Oven. Perfection.

12 months ago

Deedee, we flew American Airlines. After I came back, I learned that the airline is having internal problems, staff is boycotting and not showing up for work and service is sub par because of it. They are aware that this is happening and have contacted their regular passengers to apologize and provide future incentives to fly with them. That, of course, does not help my situation which I now realize was due to this. We fly Delta internationally and have never had a problem with them to date. I am sure every airline has their off days, but our experience going out to Vegas was awful, just plain awful.



I have not flown domestically for years, because like you I was very fearful of flying for most of my life. After my mother's death that all changed, I will myself to get on a plane and I do quite well with it. The hubs was concerned about the flight as he was more aware that flying domestically (these days) is not at the same standard as flying internationally. He booked American because it was the only direct flight available and we flew first class because he felt I needed the additional space (and air) that is provided up front. He was trying to make me as comfortable as possible.


We took two different planes back from Vegas (that is a story on to itself) both were American Airlines and the experience I had was very different to the first. The second plane was more of what one would expect, and the third (we were flying from Dallas) had a steward that treated the experience like we were in a fine restaurant. I even ate, they had a vegetarian pasta dish and salad, (which was actually crisp), cheese and olives, asparagus and creamy ice cream for desert. I had had nothing on the flight before except for water, diet soda and peanuts, so I was hungry by then. At least my last experience was a good one, but I don't think I would fly American again. Too be honest, breaking the flight up was a much better than doing it in one full sweep, even the Hubs says so, so if I was to ever go back we would use Delta.

12 months ago

Going out on the awful flight from Philly, the husband somehow got the seats mixed up and we both had aisle seats rather than sitting next to each other. He still does not know how that happened. I will honestly tell you I was having an internal fit about the conditions … flying first class is expensive, it is not something we do when flying internationally, I would never spend that kind of money, it can be very (very) expensive. We usually fly economy premium, know exactly the seats we want, there are four good ones on the plane, just behind business/first class that have about the same leg room and more air flow. We book early and always get these seats. They are the best value on the plane. You pay a little more, but you get a lot more in terms of comfort.


Anyway, I was looking at the hubs with a "what the h*ll is this look" which he was clueless too, mainly because he was so excited about going, that he was oblivious to what I was thinking. I was sitting next to a young up and coming basketball player going out to the Las Vegas Summer League, he was only twenty years old and a lovely young man. He picked up my vibe that something was wrong, he thought it was because he or his teammate took the wrong seats and I quickly assured him that that was not the case, it was my husbands fault, not theirs, and realized I had to suck it up, put a smile on my face and let it go. He had a lot riding on the tournament, his future, and I was not going to do anything which would add any negativity to his life. Even ill, I kept a smile on my face.


The truth is, the people behind us had the worst time of it, they were packed in like sardines, the plane was smaller (and airless) and there was no room. I had to remind myself to be thankful for my own fortunate circumstances and to put on my big girls panties and shut up. Every person on that plane deserved to get their money back for that flight, it was a disgrace, but that was never going to happen.

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

Brit, what an horrific experience. I don't know if it will do any good, but I would immediately write to the CEO. I would send an email to everyone on this list.

https://www.elliott.org/company-contacts/american-airlines/

especially the CEO, doug.parker@aa.com

and include these people:

Elise.eberwein@aa.com
Robert.isom@aa.com


https://www.aa.com/i18n/customer-service/about-us/leadership-bios/leadership-bios.jsp

Just including all these emails on your note (even if they don't work!), is often an incentive to have someone in the executive office get back to you. It's worked for me countless numbers of times.

Good luck.

12 months ago
soler
expert

Brit at least you're flight back was better than you're flight out . Good tip about the four seats behind business / first class . You're trip sounds like one you won't easily forget .... Especially those two Brit guys ... They will always think of the earth quakes when ever they see anything about the U.S. in the news. It will be a good conversation piece for you as well as the two Brits for years to come.

12 months ago
alastair
expert

Brit, what you say was indeed a nightmare! I'm so sorry you went through this!

Yes, unfortunately American Airlines is nothing like it was. As a former travel agent, I can testify they were one of the best a few decades ago when Robert Crandell was in charge. As you say, Delta now provides a much superior experience..

12 months ago

Thanks Deedee for the info. My guess is that American Airlines is inundated with calls and emails, from what I have read, my experience is not an isolated one. I may just send the CEO a note about it, that is, if I can find my boarding pass with the information... I think I may have burned it. At least, as Soler says, I had two good flights back and American did redeem themselves with that last flight. In many ways I am better than most, I think. I can only imagine if a flight like that was a person's only experience of flying...…. Thanks Alastair, for confirming my thoughts about Delta, I appreciate it. The story doesn't quite end there as the Hubs made a huge mistake and we missed our flight back. He got confused with the times, actually AM/PM. In any event, it was all good after he was finished having his melt down. I was calm throughout the whole thing, I took it as it was meant to be and did not say one negative word. We could not get back out for two more days. Thank goodness the pet sitter stepped up and was able to take care of my babies (they were fine when I got home, all healthy and content) so Mom got a few days in a lovely suite (we got upgraded), time at the pool and had a great last meal before we left. The truth, it was more relaxing and fun then the days before.

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

True, Brit. Chalk it up as a life lesson, we all have many of them, if we are lucky.

When I have flown, I've only ever flown JetBlue out of Westchester. But my s-i-l and her family fly a lot, and I think they fly Delta exclusively in the U.S.

I am SO glad your fur kids were good on your return. I know how attached Miss Buddy is to you.

Just think, if you go back to LV, you know exactly how to do it now!

P.S. Almost at the end of season 2 of Professor T, and it is still excellent. Rarely do I say that so willingly.

P.P.S. The 'she' that Chris Sullivan mentions in that website about the scene spoken about in Digital Spy that was excised by the knife happy folks at PBS was yours truly.

12 months ago

Deedee, I don't know how I missed Professor T! If you did not say anything about it, I would not have known it existed. I looked it up last night, there are two episodes available, one I DVR'd and the other I have set to record. Unfortunately, PBS is not rerunning it, I checked ahead and nothing. I'll view the two I have even though I am late to the game.


I haven't read Chris Sullivan's link yet because I haven't watched the episode. Plan on doing that tonight. You were quoted/mentioned (The 'she' that Chris Sullivan mentions...), how fun is that!! Will make sure to read it once I get caught up.

12 months ago
appara2
guru

Brit, at least your plane didn't hit turbulence like the Canada to Australia flight from here a few days ago, emergency landing and 37 injured!! I think it would be best for y'all to just stay on the ground LOL!

***Finale Episode - Endeavor***
I found myself holding my breath a few times watching the Endeavor finale! The building crumbling and coming down? The black screen and silence, and then the barely audible sound of sirens in the background. wow.
Bright between the two thugs in the alley. The resigned look on his face when he knew he had nowhere to go. wow.
Thanks so much for the missing scenes link from 'she who wasn't named' :D
Thursday and Bright, so in love with their wives, even after so many years!
The scene with Bright and his wife when she first woke and called to their daughter Dulcie, so heartbreaking!
The level of corruption, from the highest of office to the lowest of snakes! What they wouldn't do to hide their crimes!! Then a bit of insight about bravery from Bright "between a moments fear or a lifetime of regret, it's always the same choice"
And Endeavors quiet aside 'I'm going to need a car' Too funny!
I wonder if that's the same house from all those years later in Morse?
Their attention to detail, for some reason, in this last episode took me back a few years. I really noticed the old phones, the clothes, the hairstyles, etc. Also, I am no longer going to walk my dog....we are going for rambles from now on!!

12 months ago
deedee713
guru

Thursday and Bright, so in love with their wives, even after so many years!


Wasn't that a beauty, appara? Now seriously, how long was that scene? They couldn't have included it? It made up for the abysmal (to me) previous 3 episodes.

I wonder if that's the same house from all those years later in Morse?


Yes, it was! Some folks recognized the living room in Morse's house where he did his drinking and ruminating. I didn't. Isn't that special?

12 months ago
soler
expert

This ep. had a few disappointing scenes in it for me. That scene with the four of 'm ( Box , Jago , Endeavour , Thursday ) in some sort of Mexican standoff , all standin' around pointing guns at each other with the two bad guys shooting each other . That scene got an eye - roll from me. Question ….. did Box get away with a wrist slap ..… after all his deviousness ? Something Thursday said about Box going into early retirement . That's it ?????? ........ for being on the take from a dirty politician and building contractor . Dirty cop gets early retirement with full pension I'll bet. The big question for me was the Thursday issue....…… was he on the take for real or just setting up Box …… well we found out the answer to that question when he tried to give the money to Win. IF … IF she had taken it , I think he would of gone back for more. As it turned out Win thru it back in his face . NOW ...he does the right thing in giving the money back to Box. So that makes it all right does it. So instead of being tagged with this … he gets a promo. It's like robbing a bank , changing you're mind and giving the money back ….. you think you can just walk away???? Will think less of Thursday from now on in.

12 months ago
appara2
guru

Soler, you raise some good questions, that I didn't even think about!
Box should be in hot water, if he survives. I don't think he actually dirtied his own hands, I believe that was all the redhead Jago, who was quite proud to take the credit. On the other hand, he did turn a blind-eye through the year(s) and was rewarded wtih cash and promotions for his co-operation.
Thursday took the cash, but did he do anything to earn it? He did beat on a prisoner to get him to talk, but back in the day that was more, shall I say, acceptable? Either way, there's a fine line and Morse called him on it, as did Win.
Now, just to take a poke at men in general..
Men are basically quite clueless when it comes to women! Win knew Fred had done wrong, trying to buy her forgiveness with dirty cash, all she wanted was an apology for not treating her as an equal partner in the first place. Yes, I was pissed at her last week, but I totally forgive her this week, see what I mean about not understanding women? LOL
At any rate, I think Thursday, even with no eyes on him, would not have gone so far as being a 'bent copper', after all he was a mentor to Endeavor.
Bright turned down the cancer bribe, Strange turned down the masonic? bribe, poor Morse nobody thought he was worth trying to bribe. But his smile at the end when Bright was handing out the promotions and he got the sincere compliment from Bright 'very well' was kind of sad. Almost as if he knew that he would never get the big promotions.

12 months ago
soler
expert

appara2 ..... I wish the writers had taken a different route in regards to Thursday. The fact that he took the cash is enough for me . I believe the cash came from that crooked politician and that tower block developer . These two were in cahoots to cover up the real reason for the tower collapse and cause all those deaths ...... these were the people where the money came from. Taking the cash means they own him , he is in there pocket and as Box said it's hard to break away from these people. So in the end he gives the cash back and all is forgotten ...... me thinks not quite ...... that crooked politician will do anything to save his a** ... he will point the finger at THAT cop who was on the take .... then down goes Thursday.... should have stretched this over to next season ..... and done this thing right. Good for Bright to turn down that cancer treatment bribe ( couldn't blame him if he took it though ) All should have been figured out by that ' Cleaver Endeavour ' as he puts the cuffs on Thursday . LOL

12 months ago

Oh my, I got chills watching that tower collapse. Excellent production values and technique used in Deguello, it had a movie feel to it, I felt like I was watching a movie rather than a TV episode. Thanks Deedee, for the link, it was helpful to see the cut scenes. The one of Thursday and Bright talking about their wives was lovely, what a shame that was not televised. Considering they wrapped the storylines up in one episode I think they did a pretty good job of it. The story had its' tense moments, I don't remember getting so anxious watching an episode in a long time. The tower collapsing, Bright almost getting killed by those goons, the fight out at the O.K. Corral. Yes, Solar that was a bit of an eye roll. Reminds me a little of the episode with the maze and lions with Bright coming to the rescue. That was another one that was dramatic, but you kind of were left with a squint in your eye, saying "really".

12 months ago

Whenever I see the actor Aidan McArdle all I can remember is his horrible Lord Loxley character from Mr. Selfridge. Can't help it, I see him now on screen and I immediately hate his character no matter who he is playing. I can understand an actor worrying about being typecast, because when it does happen they carry it for life. I know not everyone watched Mr. Selfridge, but for those who did, it was a popular program, I bet they feel the same way I did. He is a good actor, I will give him that, 'cause he was so convincing, yet actors do have to choose work carefully because the role they play may have long term ties that stay with the audience.

12 months ago

That was a great red herring by the writers, we were so focused on Box that Jago slid by us as the kingpin. What a devious character her was, they tried to make us think he may have a human side when he was speaking to Box about the tower collapse and the need for one of them to stay. Bollacks, he didn't have a human bone in his body, corrupt to the core. As was most of the people we met in this episode, Box was the only one that had a foot on both sides (not that we realized it until the end) he was able to grab on to the bit of humanity left inside him. The others though, the worst of the worst. Shudder. We do come to find out that Box has a true affection for Thursday and that Thursday felt the same. Somewhere along the way, they both developed a relationship that propelled Box to come to Thursday's aid. I am not as surprised that Box got retired out... at that point they had enough people to finger, he was an enabler and benefited from Jago's corruption, but actually was out of his depth with the likes of them, they were evil, he was a taker. He killed Jago before he shot Thursday, which helped to cover up his own part in it all, and bottom line the police department wanted all this to quietly go away. Retiring someone out is quite often the route taken to get rid of a bad seed, it happens all the time in corporate America I am afraid.

12 months ago

Before I forget, did you all see the look on Strange's face at the beginning of the episode when he came across Box and Jago at the first crime scene. If looks could kill! At that moment I came to realize that Strange has much more in him than I ever gave him credit for. This season has shown us why he became Chief Super years late. He was on the side of right, and he was willing (and able) to stand up when he knew something stank, and you needed to hold your nose around Box and Jago. I found this blossoming of his character compelling and it has caused me to garner a new respect for him...……. The theme of this season was second chances, everyone got a chance to start over, and in one case, come back from the abyss. Everyone is back in their place, Win and Thursday are moving forward from their troubles and we see Endeavour move in to his home for the first time! I did recognize that living room, actually this is the first link we see to the man we know called Morse. That house was prominently placed in so many of the Morse episodes. Yes, Appara2, Endeavour seems already resigned to the fact that he would not climb the police corporate ladder. He was never really one of them though, an excellent detective, but always out of his element. Unfortunately, Mrs. Bright will no longer be with us next season, and that will lay heavy on Bright as he moves forward with life.

12 months ago
soler
expert

Set my DVR to pick up Professor T tonight . Noticed it is on at Mid night here so I won't be up to watch it . Will have it for sometime thru week. So that's it for now , I guess . Haven't checked the PBS schedule ta see what's coming up in the way of our type of viewing. Fingers crossed .

12 months ago

Soler, are you going to give the new season of "Grantchester" a go? New vicar coming up this first episode. I am giving it another try, see if it sticks this time. Sometimes a change is good.



Deedee, the Q is having Christmas in July... I usually don't succumb, but I lost control somewhere. I ordered plaid ribbon (I wasn't letting that go), mercury glass ornaments/candles which I can use on the table or in my tree, two mercury glass accent lamps I needed (wanted) for the table to replace pieces that my darling pet daughter broke and vintage bottlebrush candle rings I haven't seen the likes of in years.

12 months ago
soler
expert

Yes Brit ….. I think I will give the new season of Grantchester a go . Gonna sit back with my feet up and enjoy a nice cuppa of Earl Gray . lol

12 months ago
appara2
guru

Soler, you are right with saying that Thursday taking the cash is nothing to be taken lightly. I too am hoping that he decides to 'retire' before the start of the next season. His reply to Bright about talking it over at home gives him a way out with a bit of dignity, Afterall, he has to face the fact that they all knew he had taken up with Box and Co., and that the level of trust needed to do that kind of job is now gone.
Well said Brit! We know that Strange moves up the ranks, and all the corruption in this season, was likely the turning point for him. He had gotten quite a bit of notice for the way he handled himself, not only by us but by the higher ups!
It is frustrating Dee, a lot of important clips are cut, and letting the 'people' scenes run for a few more seconds would have made a big difference in how the season was presented. Without the Pelican clip, the children clamouring for an autograph would not have made sense to me. I quite often will 'search' something to see if it is real, (or where/what it means) so I'm happy that little utube video popped up! Yes, the scenery is beautiful, but I would sooner miss out on that to save more of the dialogue! I'm just so glad that you are part of the group that found ALL the missing scenes!

Not a fan of Grantchester, so I'll be a stalker in here till something starts up that I can chime in on :D

12 months ago

Deedee, I finally watched the finale episode of Vera, "The Seagull".... it was excellent (as you said). I absolutely loved it, among the best of the series in my opinion. Beautifully shot, just a gorgeous piece of work, the story took us back to the first two seasons once again, we saw Vera walk back in time fighting her insecurities and doubts about her life with her father. The writer was Paul Mathew Thompson who only started writing for Vera in S6, yet surprisingly he captured the Vera of yore flawlessly. Of course, we have to give much of the credit for that to BB, she has made the character an extraordinary piece of work, right up there with Shaw and Morse... it has become an iconic role. Yet, without a strongly written piece, one that hit the core of the character, she can only do so much - which is what distinguishes the great episodes from the good ones.



Paul Mathew Thompson is also the writer for Shakespeare & Hathaway which I find to be more dribble than substance. As you know it did not impress me, it is a light mystery series that is more comedic than anything else. I quickly became bored. Also "Father Brown", another I don't care for. How he was able to channel the depth of the Vera character I don't know, but he did.

12 months ago
appara2
guru

okay, spotted this on my travels through the www. and thought I'd share with you ....
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It helps if you imagine auto correct as a tiny little elf in your phone who's trying so hard to be helpful but is in fact quite drunk.

LOL

12 months ago

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