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Thanks for starting this very comprehensive ;) thread, Luacheia!
Deep breath... Well,
The term "groundbreaking" has been so overused in the past decade or so that it's sometimes difficult to tell when writers and actors have truly broken new ground... I assure anyone who has NOT seen this show, it's earth-shattering...
The writing and acting is real and true without being uncomfortable for the audience. I don't know how they accomplished that, but they have.
Each couple is so distinctive and their journey through the first season was so compelling.
I think audiences "like" Katie and Dave the most because they are the most likable as characters.
Caroline and Palek had one of the most difficult storylines because their characters were less sympathetic, but still, I wanted to know where they are going as a couple...
Jamie and Hugo are the least interesting for me because they are the least focused about their lives and they both have somewhat toxic personalities. Yeah, I think these two are pretty messed up ;)
Jane Alexander is amazing in her roles as their therapist - she plays off of all the other actors effortlessly. Her own storyline on the show is just as interesting.
Ally Walker as Katie / and
Tim DeKay as Dave
The best actress emmy nominations for this show will be tough, will it be Ally Walker or Jane Alexander? Maybe Ally as lead actress and Jane as supporting (though not really a supporting role).
Wow - bad idea
nobody wants to read essays...
at my current state of mind I'm not in shape to write about the show as I want to and as it deserves - time will come
I have to get rid of what's bugging me
jane alexander - not liking her character
not feeling the therapeuthic aspect
not feeling someone who cares about her patients
not feeling she engages and wants to help
she seems distant - all-knowing - repeating herself for years infront of her patients
and I thank the person who wrote that - there is no such thing as a nice therapist
otherwise they'd end up needing more supervision than sessions
then - the kathy wanting to leave thing and her body language as she waits for the sessions????
the akward feeling and restlessnes and flieght-response when therapy finally goes somewhere but certainly not where u wanted it to go
dont get me started
jamie/hugo being messed up & toxic?
I know every word spoken & unspoken in this 'story'
every feeling felt every situation dealt with every decision regretted yet accepted every mental-fart let go every word hurt every desperation varied every bit of who u used to be lost every looking at those situations from meta-meta-meta-meata-positions and every wondering about "who is that person - that's not me"
and those people sum it up in 10 frikkin epiosdes
they catch the silence
they teach without being too straight-forward
they make u wonder
god - I am kinda lost - sorry - focus!
another thing I love is the episodes not being titled
I really like that
I like the colours and the via camera created intimacy
I think the sex-scenes are very important and yes - it is about those explicit scenes
I think most people are trying to distance themselves from that
It is about the sex as well as it is about the talking the looking and the not-talking
all those bodies move and are choreographed in a different way
yet they all show something we are very afraid to show in it's real dimension - it's not about the skin we see
it is about - how does hugo touch jamie - where does he touch her and vv why do they have sex the way they do - why is their sex different from her sex with nick?
what does it mean to her
how is she acting after?
is she secure?
does she act hurt - with both of them?
it is defenitly pornographic - but it is mental-pornography
not every couple is a nice one
hell not every person is a nice one
there are people who are cold/confused/self-centered
just a little more than the average person
or exactly as much as the average person
but they act like it and the other represses it and hates eevrybody who doesn't
what do u think about the dynamics in the katie/dave stuation?
they totally confused me
I can't really see who's the dominant part there
it seems to switch all the time
who's coming out on top?
maybe that's what they're struggeling with
there's no order - no respect for that matter
I hate to say it but I feel like the emmy's are going somewhere else
cant wait to hear more
This is where I think this site really works! TMYLM is a powerful show in terms of content, direction, and acting.
Julia's comments increase my understanding of the characters with her unique insight...
Unfortunately, I feel like the writers are using the Jamie and Hugo storyline to illustrate a relationship that remains in a cycle of "save then destroy." Can they save each other and make it stick? I hope so...
Katie and Dave - no alpha in that relationship, and by default the role has gone to Katie (though she doesn't really want it) so they both seem to "flounder." Can one of them emerge as an alpha in the relationship and provide some direction? I dunno...
Carolyn (and Palek) - we've seen HIS story, but I think next year we need some background as to why she wants a child, her own sister indicated that she (Carolyn) never expressed any desire before - so, why now? I'm looking forward to finding out next year (even though I can't stand kids, myself).
yeah, exactly, there is no alpha
but there has to be, right?
or am I totally wrong here
I mean it's not about reigning over the other it's not about power (in most relationships it is tho) but there is no balance
or too mcuh of it
I seem to forget we're talkign fiction after all
yessss - totally wat I was pointing out to kolb!!!
totally - she has somethign she coul use and work with but it's too comfy not to
and when dave does soemthing she is unhappy about it
she wants him to do something and be honest but when he is it's not what she wants to see/hear
also I forgot to say thatt I felt like they were makina a huuuuuuuge mistake by getting married lieke that
the nice-innocent-honest-cute part of it got kinda lost
rash decicions from getting back together is never a good thing (well most of the time it isn't)
getting back together often aint good
well most of the time
I wonder how that will turn out
yeah jamie looked happy for the first time and she said that she felt happpy for the first time in therapy but maybe jane was right
if what she felt was true she werent in need to talk about it and felt better, were secure
but - this is driving me crazy
so much to say so many thoughts so much to analyze
so much to interpret and I really dont like it right now that I can't just take it for what it is
a tv show
but is it really?
I know alota people who said watching six feet under (first 2 seasons - thennit just went...well different story) was like free therapy once a week
I'd like to think about this aspect with this show some time when I have more of that
need to hear more bout the not liking kid thing
also intrested in carolyn's motives
also hoping to see more of her sis and her boyfriend and that akward relationship next season - there's some goooooooood potential
plus: question to everybody
how did u feel after watching?
what happened during?
do u recognize things?
who were u watching with?
if u were watching alone - why were u and how was it?
aaaaaaaand - yes - me really liking the songs in the end tooo
need to get them
Let me take a breath!
I'm thinking in portuguese. I have to coordinate my thought in english. I'll came back later. :)
Here are my general thoughts:
It was a good show. It seems the first few episodes have the shock value of explicit nudity, but if you get over that (or absorb it into the rest of the show) you see a real story and plot developing for each set of characters.
Every main character in this show evolves over the course of the show. That isn't to say everything is wrapped up perfectly, but each person progresses to different stages, and all characters have highs and lows throughout the show.
The acting is good. The interactions and characters make you feel uncomfortable - which is to say they actually affect you. For me, this is especially true of Katy and Dave and Palek and Carolyn. As For Jaime, I felt her... Felt like yelling at her, but was still somewhat affected.
I found that characters made me sympathize and despise them at different times throughout the show.
It was a good show, and quite different from others. Felt more real, probably due to the lack of easy resolutions to complex problems.