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joker
guru
BTGuard

Does anyone know anything about this? Supposed to forward DLs thru Canada to protect privacy.

11 years ago
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nogds9
guru

BTGuard is a proxy service that reroutes your BitTorrent downloads thru thier servers. BTGuard's servers are located in Canada which has some of the strictest privacy laws in the world, ensuring the protection of your identity and IP address! tTheyeven protect you from your own ISP. No special software is required. BTGuard works with all major BitTorrent clients including uTorrent & Azureus. They don't log any of your activity and download volume is unlimited.

11 years ago
appara
expert

so its along the same lines as peer guardian? i find that when i have pguard running, my internet surfing slows to a crawl, so have to shut down my dl when i want to browse. anybody have opinions on which is better? (i really have no other complaint with pguard)

11 years ago
joker
guru

Talked to Cap a bit ago and he said it was most likley a scam.

11 years ago
nogds9
guru

@appara,
You must not be using uTorrent?
BTGuard is a proxy service,nothing like Peer Guardian.

11 years ago
nogds9
guru

@joker,
Check it out for your self,they offer a one day trial.
http://btguard.com/

11 years ago
nogds9
guru

@nip,
Was able to run down some info,have not found anything negative,yet.
BTGuard@gmail.com
company name:Netcrawled LLC
owned by Evilspoon,Grand Forks,North Dakota

11 years ago
avatarfan
newbie

I just purchased it for $6.95 monthly. Have to pay through pay-pal. I hope it's legit ? It's been on the front page of Junkie for a while now. Goes through servers in Canada. I also get the same speed as I normally do. Up to 150kbs with dsL. Only proxies downloads I believe. And web browsing will show my IP Is this a good thing to have ???

11 years ago
joker
guru

@avatarfan

Please let us all know how it works out.

11 years ago

btguard claims it will avert any throttling or choking from your isp Well no software program can do that. That is a hardware issue that most Canadian servers use especially bell (sympatico) and the cable companies the monitor all 163500 ports to check on download amounts. true the isp wont give out your name or addie unless it has to with child porn or terrorism not for downloading music or files. but there is no program that will stop throttling it wont change you download speed at all

11 years ago
nogds9
guru

@avatarfan,
BTGuard does not claim any of the propaganda that catpsheridan is claiming.Your speeds should be about the same as they were.You should tweek your client a bit for better speeds if thats possible.BTGuard is gaining some recognition as a legit proxy.Go to this url and read what Torrentfreak has to say about it.http://torrentfreak.com/btguard-anonymous-bittorrent-080309/
I tried it out and it works fine and does everything it claims.

11 years ago
nogds9
guru

One thing I didn't mention,it only puts your bittorent traffic through the proxy.I tried it recently and got the same speeds as always 150 to 300kbs.

11 years ago
g2axiom
newbie

@captsheridan
I dont understand your claim on "no software program can do that.." refering to stopping or assisting in avoiding throttling from isp's.
You can very easily trick your isp to avoid such problem. I run a few scripts that I have written in conjunction with Azureus that allow me to thwart my isp from bandwidth throttling. Port forwarding mass port rotations will assist in this matter, and since i use my scripts to automate this, this would fall under software assistance : )

11 years ago
whiplash2007
expert

You guys are both right within different constraints.

"No software program can do that (thwart bandwidth throttling)". True if all its trying to do is stop bandwidth throttling and the person doing the throttling has infinite resources.

But....what you said was equally true from a different perspective:

Bandwidth throttling only works if they know what to throttle because it would be insane to throttle your mail port for example. So they gotta know what to throttle and to do that they need to detect and to do that (pick you out of the bit stream) they need to build trends and such to check for certain activity patterns consistent with P2P traffic. By moving your ports around you disrupt those patterns and while its possible from a technical angle to catch you even with your countermeasures, it is not cost-effective for them to do so when there are 101 other schmoes out there not taking precautions, always using the same port range, etc.

So what you have done is make it too expensive to track you, achieving your desired results.


We need to make it too expensive to even detect the activity for everyone.
W~~~

11 years ago
holoverse
newbie

10 years ago
nogds9
guru

Ok mr. spammer,show us the proof,there is nothing on the web to support your claims.BTGuard is still going strong.I've been using it for almost a year and have had no problems.

10 years ago
mystified
pro

My peer guardian hasn't work for over a year keeps getting some sort of exception. BTguard took my money and never worked. so i lose out on both counts.

10 years ago
bradjfitz
newbie

I signed up for it last night, and it won't let me authenticate any trackers, which leads me to believe it's fake. Being that there are no credentials anywhere verifying their legitmacy I'm going to wait for ThePirateBay to offer their VPN service to the public before I try messing with traffic routing again.

10 years ago
nogds9
guru

I'm still using it and have upgraded to 6.0.
Looked at many forums to find if folks are having any problems.All I could find were people that were trying to use it for other than bit-torrent traffic.Perhaps folks should read up on how to use it properly.
Peer Guardian is another story,make sure you d/l the right one for your operating system.Mine was always crashing till I found out I was using the wrong one,5 months now without a crash.

10 years ago
nogds9
guru

BTGuard Anonymizing Service: Is it worth it?
By Jonathan DePrizio
Introduction
BTGuard is a paid proxy service intended for bittorrent users. For $6.95 a month you can use BTGuard to hide your IP address from other downloaders and bypass any traffic shaping your ISP performs to limit your bittorrent usage. I’ve given this service a try, with mixed results. Read on for more.




How it works
BTGuard provides a Socks5 proxy, through which you pass your bittorrent (or other data) traffic before it goes out to other members of a bittorrent swarm. As a result, the tracker, as well as anyone else on that torrent, will see the BTGuard IP address rather than your own; your identity effectively stays hidden from the public.

When you register for a BTGuard account, you set a username and password, which you use to identify yourself to the proxy. This is called Socks5/A, or Socks5 with Authentication. Consequently, the service will only work with programs that support this proxy scheme; most bittorrent clients do, with the notable exception of Transmission (now the default client for Ubuntu Linux).

It is possible to use the proxy for more than just bittorrent traffic; but as of yet I have been unable to find a web browser with Socks5/A support. This includes Firefox, Opera, Konqueror, and Internet Explorer. However, any program that has support for this protocol should work, and the primary intention of the BTGuard service is for bittorrent anonymization.

In my tests, I used various clients, including Deluge, Azureus, and uTorrent (running via Wine).




BTGuard in action
Setup
Setting up your client to use BTGuard (after you have procured an account) is simple, and instructions are provided on the BTGuard website for the most popular clients. The only information you have to fill in the proxy address and port number, as well as your username and password. Once you configure your client to use the proxy, you’re good to go.

Speed and reliability
Unfortunately, the speed of the BTGuard service isn’t quite up to par. While my download cap from my ISP is quite high (I’ve often hit 2MB/s, sustained), when routed through BTGuard this falls to approximately 100KBps on average, with peaks around 300KBps and lows of 50KBps. These speeds are sure to disappoint serious downloaders with fast connections, but for someone who only occasionally grabs a file or two it may be acceptable.

Another problem with BTGuard is reliability; more than once I noticed my connection dropping entirely for short periods (about 30 seconds) before it would start up again. I ran all tests with several Linux ISO files downloading at once, so I can say with certainty that the strength of the bittorrent swarm was not the issue; this is also a problem I only encounter when using the BTGuard proxy service.

Overall, using BTGuard will most likely mean a slower, less reliable connection (at least for now, or until they upgrade their systems to meet with demand), and it’s something to consider before spending $7/month on the service.


Security through trust
One of the largest questions about BTGuard is simple: Can you trust them? When you use a proxy, you’re sending all your data through someone else’s servers; as a result, they can view and log everything you do. Unfortunately, there isn’t any readily-available information on exactly who is behind BTGuard. On their website they explicitly state that they do not keep any logs, but you have to take them at their word.

Using BTGuard to become anonymous changes your bittorrent security paradigm from “security through obscurity,” or becoming lost in the crowd, to “security through trust” of BTGuard’s systems. It’s up to the individual to decide whether or not they want to trust BTGuard.


Improving the BTGuard system
Speed

The number one thing BTGuard needs to do to improve their service is make it faster; 100KBps on average is simply too slow for bittorrent traffic. As more users sign up for the service, their “tubes” will become increasingly full, and individuals will see their download speed decrease; hopefully BTGuard will vigorously combat these growing pains and provide a faster service.

Security
BTGuard needs to make it clearer that you can trust their service. More legal information, more information about who exactly is running the service, and a better privacy policy are must-haves before many people will consider them trustworthy.

Pricing
Currently, the BTGuard service costs $6,95 a month, which I think is fair for what they provide (although speed remains an issue, and some people will likely be turned away from paying for a service as slow as it is now). However, there is no long-term pricing; you can sign up for one month, or a recurring monthly payment, but there is no price difference. A 12-month discount price, for example, would be a nice addition; perhaps $75 instead of the current $83.50.


Conclusion
BTGuard fills an important niche, and many bittorrent users will likely be willing to pay for such a service, but it’s currently plagued by some significant problems that will turn many potential users. If the company is able to increase available bandwidth, deal with its growing pains, and make themselves more trustworthy, it’s likely that BTGuard will become a powerful tool in the fight for privacy on the internet.

I thought this an interesting read.I do agree that speeds are effected from time to time,I don't really sit here and watch the screen for hours,but my speeds seem to be maxed out whenever I check.

10 years ago
spacey666
newbie

Too long dude...

Basically, it works or i would know by now. I got one warning from my isp and weeks later got btgrd. it's been 3 yrs. now and no problems at all. yes, sometimes the speed is the same, and the 1st few months it was slower...but after upgrading to the simple utorrent version with encryption, my speeds went up. it sets all the settings for you cause b4 i was changing every setting possible every couple days and getting random results of course. i have one of the isp's that are known to throttle, and it does slow down eventually after about 24 hrs. of use, so then you just restart your pc, and all is good. even if it slows down a little, there's a reason for it, and if you think it's worth a little slower speed, then it's worth $7.

9 years ago
spacey666
newbie

Here's an update. Last week i got an ISP threat and service cutoff. Either it used to work, and doesn't now, or it was always B.S. and I was lucky and thought it was working. They don't respond to emails or phone. Was using the easy install version 2.0 with encryption and socks5. Their "100% safe" claims are completely B.S. Maybe it's partially encrypted> who knows???

9 years ago
quark
guru

@Spacey

Thanks for the update.

9 years ago
oledawg
newbie

In August, I signed up with BTguard's VPN service and paid them for a full year, mainly because they advertised on my primary tracker site and over the years my tracker has earned my trust but also because the annual subscription amount was discounted by 25%.

This is a critique of BTguard's VPN service and support after thirty-some days of activity:

a. The service was promptly initiated.

b. To use their VPN service, all one needs to do is set up a new connection using the setup tutorial on their website.
It is a plain-vanilla task since all one needs is their domain name and the VPN userid and password you furnished when you signed up with them.

What you receive is a secure path through their server, no matter what the content consists of.
Your ISP sees only your IP address, the server's IP address and encrypted data. The VPN server passes your traffic through at up to 10.5MB.
I have seen up to 600KBs with well-seeded torrents.

c. I have no problems with their VPN service so long as it doesn't drop the connection (I'll cover those problems later).

d. What I do have a problem with is CUSTOMER support. I don't mean 'technical' support, they state up front they do not provide technical assistance other than the information provided in tutorials on their website.
I have no problem with that, and understand why they do not, because that level of support would require a large staff to cope with dummies like me.
I can easily find technical information using trusted forums and search engines.

e. BTguard's customer support does not seem to exist.
I suspect the 'company' consists of a tech guy with a kitchen table for an office and his primary allegiance is to who provides his day job.
He surely is technically competent and is an entrepreneur.

I was in his shoes back in the '70s but quit my day job, started my business with $600 in the bank and for thirty-some years remained self-employed until I retired.
So I have been there, done that, but (there's always one of these) what I knew up front was an upstart business with no resources other than technical competence cannot grow without also providing customer support and plenty of it, no matter what it takes.
For instance, if I sold a client an annual service contract and my customer paid me up front, I would provide a years worth of the best service I could muster, because I relied on him for referrals and at the end of the year I would want him to provide me with another year's payment.

What I would NEVER do is 'forget' that the customer had paid me for a year's service and after one month, would cut off service and refuse to return his calls.
I just sent BTguard my final notice and if my VPN is not restored, tomorrow I will cancel my payment through my credit card service. I never use 'Paypal', I learned long ago they are unreliable as the likes of BTguard where my needs are concerned.

PROBLEMS WITH VPN

For many years I have relied on my firewall to keep out those who would deny my right to download whatever I wished to download.
When I first started BT, there were a few hundred. They grew to a few thousand and now are springing up from every continent but Antartica. I grew tired of spending the majority of my time entering IP permits for those places I wanted to go and blocks to keep out those who want to install their anti-whatever crap on my system.

For my needs, VPN seems to work, because while connected via VPN I can go pretty much wherever I wish, like in the good old days.
I keep my firewall up because I haven't found a way to reconnect when and if the VPN connection is broken.

I have learned that the MicroSoft kludge named ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) can and will cause the VPN connection to drop out.
I learned the hard way, when I left a slow torrent run overnight. When I checked on its progress, I found my firewall going crazy and my system infested with vermin.
After repairing the damage, I restarted the torrent, monitored the VPN connection and watched the traffic in and out of my system. Sure enough, after a short while it dropped again and the chaos resumed.
Removing ICS from my network seems to have cleared up my immediate problem, but I cannot trust VPN's staying connected without a lot more monitoring.

Other than ICS, there are other factors that can break a VPN connection. Using searches similar to 'VPN dropping' will provide the means to investigate various causes.

If one uses BT, the 'forces of evil', including your own ISP will be watching like Orwell's Big Brother and since those evildoers do not leave tracks, even your ISP is suspect.
They will hound you for months, no matter what you are doing, by dropping turds on your system until you change your IP address, an issue that varies depending on how your ISP assigns your IP.
Search for 'changing MAC address' for more information on that subject.

9 years ago
quark
guru

So as has often been said on this site use a free service.

Such as Hotspot Shield which I use, as I am in the UK, to watch our videos.

I also do not believe you can ever hide from your ISP as all your 'traffic' has to go through their servers and you would be identified by your ISP by the Router/Modem you use.

9 years ago

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